NEW COLORS By SUMMA!

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NEW COLORS By SUMMA!

Post by csaw » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:51 pm

Just got the scoop from Summa.

1. Holographic!(POSSIBLY OUTDOOR)
2 & 3. Matte Gold & Silver (OUTDOOR!)
4. UV CLEAR (POSSIBLY MAKE MIRRORS OUTOOR!)

Now programming the chips for Holographic...
Should be out est. April...???

csaw

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Post by jayhawksigns » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:49 pm

Matte silver and gold are really late in getting produced, they should of had those a long time ago. Holographic sounds cool, have to see it to appreciate it though most likely.

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Post by csaw » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:18 pm

jayhawksigns wrote:Matte silver and gold are really late in getting produced, they should of had those a long time ago. Holographic sounds cool, have to see it to appreciate it though most likely.
They are late in much more than that :lol:
Next we need to work on getting prices or specials in place!
Summericans & Summapeons Unite!
Speak your thoughts as a supporting user of thier product line.


I am going up to the Mass branch for the day the week of 4-19-10
I will be sure to voice my opinions.

Change in numbers - Through numbers

CSAW.

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Post by zlmark » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:56 pm

Very interesting, Holographic? I'm trying to imagine what that would
look like. When did they say this was coming out?

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Post by zlmark » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:58 pm

Also someone said they were working on a 3M with comply adhesive.
Wonder if anybody has heard more on that?

Mark

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Post by csaw » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:13 pm

zlmark wrote:Very interesting, Holographic? I'm trying to imagine what that would
look like. When did they say this was coming out?

Mark
Looks like the holographic could be as early as april...
They just received their first 100 and are just programming the chips...
I will try to keep you up to date on the others.

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Post by 2 Piece » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:50 pm

While you're at it may I suggest some earth tone spot colors? A nice brown and possilbly skin tone (tan/ beige) would really make me happy.

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Post by zlmark » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:22 pm

You know what surprises me when they have
something new they don't tell anyone. Why can't
they mass email everyone to spread the word.
They should be real happy about this site that
helps them out in that area.

Mark

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Post by Muts » Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:37 pm

One thing about summa I never understood was their marketing. I do find it odd.


nice brown - black overprint orange :)


Holographic - ehh I do not see the point...wonder what they will get for it...

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Post by csaw » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:54 am

They do need to take a card from gerber and get a MUCH wider array of spots. It makes since from a sales point of view as well. More spots = More Products to sell... With that they might sell more machines if people knew that they were not so limited in pure spots - not duos.

Also why not work with Zeronine? They could keep their summa ribbon monopoly just put in place a certain royalty or sell Zeronine the chips.
Gerber has a DC4 in pieces in their R&D lab in CT as Zeronine has Gerbers machines. I could imagine ZN has a Summa as well meaning I bet they have already printed on a Summa and are just waiting for the Ok.... Its in the Grape or Ribbon Vine........... :wink:
When I did the R&D for the Gerber Edge FX and the introduction of chips in that line they (gerber) were not intending on letting anyone produce ribbons... It may be years later but sure enough Zeronine has FX refills... We won't speak on the Maxx....... Really I think we have to take the bull by the horns and walk Summa through the process and benefits in a professional manner or it just wont get done...

When I last spoke with R&D at ZN they would gladly produce for summa after all thats what they do produce third party ribbons and good ones at that. The ONLY thing stopping them is the tight grip Summa has on their ribbons.

ps. Hi Muts.
I agree on the holographic.
With summa always talking about this shining as an outdoor machine they decide on using 2 ribbon slots for blue and red indoor materials which could have been used for some earth tones, or a nice brown - black overprint orange as posted earlier.

Also They did mention that they need to do a better job at "leaking" info to the community. but this is coming from one of if not the most open mind at summa...


I apologize about my rambling.... just want to see some progress with such a great machine.


~CSAW

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Post by jayhawksigns » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:08 am

Any updates??

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Post by rmartin802 » Thu May 13, 2010 4:10 pm

I went to gerber road show and they hinted that they may be making omega drivers to run the summa DC4 just like they now make for summa plotters. that would be great.
alot of DC4 owners also have an edge and gerber no longer makes the Max also
It would be great if they made trans foils blue, red, green and yellow that are MUTCD/Fed approved for use on Traffic Signs!!!
ps a solid Black to print on clear to make photo screens for signs

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Post by Muts » Fri May 14, 2010 8:08 am

omega drivers to run the summa DC4
Gerber is laughable...they were/are selling rebranded summa plotters.


as for positives I do it all the time with the regular black ribbon, if I need
something I feel needs to be more opaque I just run the black twice ( primer dot )
making it 99%.

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Post by zlmark » Fri May 14, 2010 11:28 am

Say Muts, you say you make film positives?? What kind of clear material do
you print on. I've been waiting for this and maybe I've had the ability all the time.

As far as the spots Summa has at this point. I think everybody needs to bear
in mind one of the reasons you bought you DC3/4 and that is the 5 year
durability of the ribbons. Would I buy a zeronine ribbon if I thought it was
only a 3 year ribbon? Probably not. 90% of Gerber ribbons are a 3 year ribbon
which you can check out if you go to their site. There are only a hadful of
printers that can actually say 5 year and we have one. You may hear
solvent printers say this or that but at the end of the day a solvent is
a 3 year prints. Solvents don't last! Depending on the situation I do buy
solvent prints but I look at whether the print is north facing or not.
Laminating + 1 year.
My DC3 I wouldn't trade as it really has a vital need. Recently I did a
custom sticker order. While I could have printed it on my DC3 I opted to
go another direction and have the 2000- 3.5" circle sticker done outsourced
through http://customstickermakers.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I could not do the stickers this
cheap or as good for that fact. I doubled their price and did real good indeed.
They used a eco-solvent printer. Resolution was A++. The point is that your
Summa has some amazing capabilities but it is not the end-all....nor is
anybody elses printer. I'm real sure a Gerber Edge should not be compared.

My 2 cents,
Mark

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Post by Muts » Fri May 14, 2010 8:07 pm

What kind of clear material do you print on.
I use scrapes of laminate ( currently using Arlon 3220 ) that would otherwise go into the garbage and then apply to clear acetate. I do not do ALOT of screen printing so it works out...

I have even used Avery A6 clear...for positives - again applied to acetate, and a homemade exposure unit. :)

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