Compatible Vinyl List for DC Series Printers

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Compatible Vinyl List for DC Series Printers

Post by Muts » Mon May 22, 2006 8:59 am

Compatible Vinyl, DC Series Printers
  • 3M:
    7725 - white and clear
    7125 - white and clear
    IJ35C Gloss

    Avery:
    A8 White
    A8 Clear
    A4 High Gloss


    FDC
    4200/4270 Intermediate. White and Colors
    7243*

    Oracal:
    751 white 11300
    751 metallic
    751 clear 11900
    651 white 10900
    651 metallic
    651 clear
    341 economy
    5700 reflective white prints great at 12000
    5600 white reflective prints awesome at 12500

    Orajet:
    Orajet 3551 G-00 clear at 10900 density rocks
    Orajet 3951 @11500 density

    Mactac:
    MacTac MacCal 9800 Pro
    Mactac Bubble free series (Mactac JT5929)
    Mactac 8900

    Nikkilite
    white reflective

    Vector Super Calendered Series High Gloss - Pro V-5 Opaque

    LG
    383TG 54" 3.2m

    Hexis
    Hexis 350WG
    Hexis SupTac White S5001B 65µ, intermediate Summa´s profile
    Hexis V3000WG White 100 µ (*some white spots*), intermediate Summa´s profile

    Arlon GTX 4560 X-Scape

    R-Tape
    Chrome
Static Cling
  • Mojave 8.0 mil. Hi-Stat® Clear Static Cling Vinyl (by GMI)
T-Shirt Transfer
  • Siser (Colorprint II)

NON-Compatible Vinyl, DC Series Printers
  • Avery 1005 EZ
    3M 680-10 white reflective - prints but leave little fish eyes of dots.

If anyone is having success or NO success :D with other brands please let me know so I can post them here. I will add them to this "master list"

Specific Issues

FDC 7243 Submitted by wex -
which printed well enough to add to your list but was an install nightmare. It is calandared and (very rigid) slight curves is an understatement. I am still waiting for the blush to come out as well, it was wet installed today. Static cling is a bit to removeable, any help is appreciated. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30
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Post by cyberdine » Mon May 22, 2006 7:51 pm

Thanks so much for this vinyl list Muts...

I must say, this forum has been a valuable source of information for all of us Summa users...
Thumbs Up to Muts!!!

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Post by mac miller » Tue May 23, 2006 10:44 am

I second the thumbs up!!!

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Post by clearcoat » Tue May 23, 2006 2:04 pm

Vector Super Calendered Series High Gloss
- Pro V-5 Opaque
- 30 colors


I've tried the white and it works well.

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Post by zlmark » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:14 am

I have a question. Under the 'Rants' category, someone
posted how they were using 3M vinyl and according to
Summa this caused the head to fail prematurely. I wonder just how
valid that discussion really is. Should we really be using
anything less than Summa approved vinyl? Are we destined
for premature head failure by not using theirs. I wonder
what Jim Doggett might say about this.

Mark Summers

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Post by jimdog » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:10 pm

Hi Mark,

I'd say: Kudos to Muts and Clearcoat for testing media and sharing what they've learned.

What the Summa legal eagles would BBQ me for not adding is: we cannot guarantee the results when using non-approved media.

The thing is that we test stuff too, and we'll find a material that prints great on some batches and marginally on others. The inconsistencies make it impossible for us to guarantee the quality. 3M isn't perfect all the time either, but so far it remains the best from a consistency standpoint.

The DC3 Plus is much more forgiving thanks to the OptiPrint cleaning roller. If we didn't have a bunch of earlier models we're supporting, and only had OptiPrint-equipped machines in the field, we could specify a much wider array of media. DC4 has some print modes that are more forgiving still, and we'll soon have firmware with the new modes available for DC3/DC3 Plus.

Another advantage of the OptiPrint is that it really saves on printheads. Chunks of debris on the media is the number one cause of head damage. So removing them with the OptiPrint roller eliminates the biggest cause of head damage.

Best Regards,
Jim Doggett
Vice President
Summa, Inc.
jimd@summa.us

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Post by zlmark » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:01 am

Thanks for the input Jim. I did jump on the Optiprint right away
which makes me a DC3+. I can really see where it is needed
looking at the amount of crap it picks up.
I know Summa is hot on the scene to come up with some new
approved media for us. I heard one individual talk about a
banner material as one of the new medias. As I see in the
catalogs also you are advertising "new medias coming soon".
Look forward to these new medias. Also looking forward to
the new firmware coming up.

Mark Summers

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Shinerite

Post by Ruddbow » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:25 am

I will do some testing from the DC3+ with Fellers House brand Shine-Rite. It states it is "thermable printable" I bought the 40" and it's almost exactly the same size as the 3m 7725. I'll post results once completed.

Ruddbow

update

Post by Ruddbow » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:21 pm

Ran a sample one evening and it appeared to be great. The next day I noticed the ShineRite curled pretty good (left in the machine). I decided to give it a whirl. Initially looked perfet but then had a ribbon break. Not sure if I am going to approve/dis-approve this or not. Was very spotty and the colors seemed a lot less vibrant. Had some strange lines in there as well. I still have some more to test with but had a few hot rushes that took priority.

Here are some pics:
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Printed with Summa's 3M:
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Mactac Bubble free series (Mactac JT5929)

Post by KBryksa » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:13 pm

Mactac Bubble free series (Mactac JT5929)

Has anyone used this? What advancement is in this vinyl that allows it to be bubble free? The Oracal RapidAir is wicked good but not Summa Certified. I have just noticed this vinyl is available but don't want to bring a roll in if it isn't all it is cracked up to be.

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Convex for DC3+

Post by Skeezix » Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:26 pm

A while ago I contacted Convex about vinyl for our DC3+. Go Kart guys have asked me to do their stickers on 'something thick and sticky' so I did Convex on the old Edge but this was a really positive thing to get back from Scott: (prices are probably different)
Rob,

I think I saw you mention it on 4edgetalk!

6 mil White Convex 39.4 x 50 yds = $494
8 mil Convex Laminate 39.4 x 50 yds = $546
12 mil Pro-Shield Laminate 39.4 x 50 yds = $726

review our website www.convexvinyl.com and www.graphicms.com for more information or feel free to give me a call at the number below!

Hope this is helpful!


Scott Rose
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800-232-8018 EXTENSION 19

Mobile Direct 847-401-8494

Fax 888-232-8019
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Post by KBryksa » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:55 pm

I've seen the convex stuff in action (inkjet printed) I'm guessing with the scratchguard ribbon we can eliminate the laminate for this stuff.

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Post by Skeezix » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:39 pm

I did exactly that with the Edge - the abrasion guard dulled the graphic but the karters seemed happy

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Post by KBryksa » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:55 pm

The thing is that we test stuff too, and we'll find a material that prints great on some batches and marginally on others. The inconsistencies make it impossible for us to guarantee the quality. 3M isn't perfect all the time either, but so far it remains the best from a consistency standpoint.
THat is exactly my complaint with the intermmediate vinyl.

Has anyone tried to print on the other series of Mactac Vinyls?

I am pretty much committed to trying a roll of high performance JT5929P (which I can get at a fraction of the cost of summa intermmediate) and will offer my feedback.

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40 inch vinyl wtf?

Post by Skeezix » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:25 pm

So Cal Sign Supply and Product Sign Supply don't seem to offer any 40 inch and Denco has Aspire. WTF? Where do you get white and clear for less than $400 a roll? Also I am a dope; the pinch rollers don't move but what size vinyl can I run in a DC3+?

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